Strikers End Umpire

[johnfgolding]

Actuially got a match started today after the torrential rain we had on Friday. Did not last long so have time to sit and reflect (avoidence of honey do's).

Whilst at the Strikers end today I saw my collegue give a batsman out LBW. From my limited view point it looked OK ie ball hit the pad very low down, the batsman was not forward and was not playing a shot (so he could have been hit outside off stump). What did worry me was that I heard a definate click which could have been the ball hitting the bat (before or after).
Now my collegue signalled out very quickly. The batsman naturally complained the ball hit the bat (they all do).

I decided not to do anything to avoid undermining him.
Was that right or wrong?
There was no time to do it before the finger was raised.

[gooders]

I would suggest that you should support your colleague whilst on the field of play (don't want the players to think"we've got a right pair here" do we), but might like to discuss it in the privacy of the umpires room afterwards.

[Number 6]

An umpire can and should only adjudicate or intervene in a matter that is within his remit. The umpire at the strikers end has no authority to pass judgement or opinion on LBW decisions and so should not say or indicate anything unless specifically invited to do so by his colleague. IMO to do otherwise undermines the authority of both umpires.

Personally I would not even mention anything "in the dressing room", after all what good would it do? The decision will not be changed and you would not exactly be "educating" your colleague on a matter of law so any comment would have no bearing whatsoever on any future decision that your colleague may make. If you had observed your colleague being incorrect on a point of law then that's different and a quiet word later may be in order but not for the instance you describe.

Your colleague obviously did not see or hear the bat make contact and so called what he saw.

Pete

[fatpunter]

It's nothing at all to do with the striker's end umpire. You may well have heard a "click" and it may have been bat/pad but then it may have been anything else. There is no way of telling from square leg. This is purely the remit of the bowler's end umpire and if he/she wants to call the decision quickly then again, it has nothing to do with you.
The world is full of clever thingys telling other people how wrong they are and there is no place on the field of play for it.
People learn by mistakes and if your colleague has make a dogs nuts of it then he will know, it doesn't need you to tell him so.
Never mind the worry of "belittling", just don't make yourself look an arse by pointing out their own shortcomings. You may make a mistake yourself you know, would you like some clever thingy arse shouting at you from square-leg.
Have a word with yourself.

[swerveman]

I wouldn't have put it quite like that, but I agree that your colleague's decision must be supported totally.

I wouldn't mention the incident to your colleague, but it frequently seems that an unsure colleague will bring the matter up himself. In this case, of course, you'll probably just have to accept that you don't know what the noise was.

[gooders]

Come on gentlemen, I did only suggest that you "might like to DISCUSS it in the umpires room afterwards". I never suggested that you should tell your colleague something along the lines of "You made a right pigs ear of that one didn't you!"
I have found that discussing interesting points after the game has taught me things along the way, and this all helps to make us better umpires doesn't it. Let's face it if we were perfect, then Simon Taufel wouldn't be regarded as one of the best would he, since we would all be better than he and the rest of the ICC Panel of elite umpires.