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Post by umpireindia on Jul 15, 2007 18:14:43 GMT
If a run out is upheld after the batsman had grounded his bat or his person earlier within the popping crease at that end, should that run be disallowed?
He, though, has already made good the ground from end to end after which, the bat and his person goes in the air and thereby the wicket is claimed, dont we have to grant that run to the batsman, because he had completed the run earlier?
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Post by swerveman on Jul 15, 2007 20:50:24 GMT
It's hard to be sure of the exact scenario you are describing. I would say that if the batsman has made his ground then the run is complete, and he shouldn't be run out. If he's attempting a further run, however, then he may be run out and the new run will not count.
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Post by umpireindia on Jul 16, 2007 10:38:03 GMT
This has happened in many of the international matches, ODIs, Tests and 20-20s and the score did not increase because of that run.
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Post by Number 6 on Jul 22, 2007 17:38:00 GMT
It's hard to be sure of the exact scenario you are describing. I would say that if the batsman has made his ground then the run is complete, and he shouldn't be run out. If he's attempting a further run, however, then he may be run out and the new run will not count. I can envisage the scenario where the batsman dives towards the crease with bat in hand outstretched, the held bat makes his ground but the batsman then releases the bat whilst he himself is still out of his ground. He would have then made his ground but left it again for no good reason. Pete |
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Post by swerveman on Jul 24, 2007 21:17:24 GMT
I can envisage that scenario too, but I feel that anyone running a batsman out in those circumstances is worthy of contempt.
I hope it doesn't happen in a match I'm standing in.
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Post by TrueDub on Jul 25, 2007 8:28:30 GMT
I can envisage that scenario too, but I feel that anyone running a batsman out in those circumstances is worthy of contempt. I hope it doesn't happen in a match I'm standing in. Contempt or not isn't relevant though, is it? We'd still have to give him out, regardless of how we felt about the action. |
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Post by swerveman on Jul 25, 2007 9:09:20 GMT
Ultimately, yes. That's why I hope it doesn't happen in a match I'm standing in.
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Post by nompere on Jul 26, 2007 9:14:08 GMT
I recall two cases from several years ago.
One where the batsman, having made good his ground, then jumped to avoid being hit and was airborne at the moment the ball hit the stumps - under present law this would be not out.
The other case was a batsman who dived - his bat hit the ground inside the crease so hard it forced it out of his hand leaving him sprawled out of his ground. Clearly out with no reason to accuse the fielding side of unfairness.
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