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Post by ashwinisawal on Jan 18, 2007 7:51:56 GMT
It also happen in a match. A batsman in his 40's was batting with a tail-ender. On 6th ball of 89th over of a 2 day match he hits a boundry. The upmire at the bolwer's ends calls Over. Accidently ( so it was said by the batsman) the same batsman faces the next ball of the next over, it was not noticed by the two umpires or the official scorer. After facing the first ball of the last over of the day, on which nothing happen and it was a dot ball, the umpire who is now at the blower's end notices what was wrong.
What should the two umpires do ?
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Post by tippexii on Jan 18, 2007 11:02:55 GMT
As a ball has been bowled with the batsmen the "wrong" way round, I think they should stay as they are. To ask them to swap back to how they "should" be will create 2 anomalies/errors, rather than just 1.
The tone of your query suggests you're not convinced it was accidental - if you think the batsman deliberately manipulated the strike, that would surely be a case for a report under Law 42.
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Post by vincent on Jan 18, 2007 12:37:15 GMT
does it mean that NO ONE noticed that it was the same guy who faced the ball??? you could understand that from scorers who have a lot to do in between overs and are sitting at a distance, but surely at least the wicket keeper would notice...
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Post by wisden17 on Jan 20, 2007 15:06:25 GMT
I had something similar happen in a match I was scoring. I should point out this was quite a high profile match, played at a current Test Ground and there were 3 scorers and 3 professional scoreboard operators.
The ball got hit to the boundary and then got lost and it took about 5 minutes for the ball to be found. Once it was found the game continued. It was only about 3/4 balls later that I realised that the batsmen were at the 'wrong' ends.
Thankfully the next over one of them was out, and the match was also pretty one-sided so it didn't make a huge difference. However, neither of the two umpires noticed it, nor any of the three scoreboard operators or the other two scorers. Essentially people aren't expecting it and so don't notice.
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Post by ashwinisawal on Jan 22, 2007 7:48:08 GMT
It came to our notice after the match was over that it was done deliberately by the batsman in question and it was reported. Unfortunately no action was taken and the batsman in question was selected to play for BCCI Tournament (The higest level in India)
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Post by wisden17 on Jan 22, 2007 14:24:34 GMT
Well it's an interesting case, and like I said I've had something similar happen to me before so I do always pay a bit more careful attention to who's where at the end of each over.
Another slightly related point is remembering who should face the next ball after an interval. Well I would guess most umpires make a note of who should face the next ball after the lunch or tea interval, but how many take any real trouble to note down who should face the next ball after a drinks interval?
I had a game where I was umpiring and after the short interval (it was only about 3/4 minutes long) was asked who should face the next ball. To be honest didn't have a clue! Most times the batsmen leave their gloves etc. at the end they were, well for some reason they hadn't done thsi time, and had to check with other umpire (he didn't know either!) and so a quick check with the scorers was needed. Must say learnt a lesson, though; I always make sure I know now who should face the next ball.
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Post by vincent on Jan 22, 2007 15:38:04 GMT
It's quite easy to know which batsman faces the following ball if the scorer uses the linear system...
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