moosa
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Post by moosa on Jul 28, 2006 14:29:41 GMT
the injured striker is facing the bowling the runner is out of the crease not running and it is a no ball can he be run out the wicket is put down by the wicket keeper
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Post by nompere on Jul 28, 2006 15:34:45 GMT
I am surprised that I cannot find any explicit reference to this situation in the 2006 Tom Smith (perhaps someone else can find a page number). Indeed the best reference I can find is page 178 in 1998 edition and this is not ideal.
The call of No Ball protects the Striker from being Stumped but not Run Out. If the Striker leaves his ground to play a stroke (or any reason other than attempting a run) then the Keeper cannot get him out either way.
However the runner is there for the sole purpose of running. Consequently if he leaves his ground then it is deemed that he is attempting a run and is therefore vulnerable to being Run Out by the Keeper.
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Post by wisden17 on Aug 8, 2006 22:38:26 GMT
Yes,
I know what you mean the law is not as clear, nor is Tom Smiths current edition as it could be.
The simple answer is, as stated above, the fact that a runner is out of his ground is evidence that he is attempting a run. The MCC, on the website I provided a link to earlier, help clarify another situation which is simliar (with Law 42.5 and what exactly is evidence of a run being in progress). The MCC clarification states that if the non-striker is out of his ground then this is evidence of a run being in progress, so you can see the same logic.
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Post by nompere on Aug 10, 2006 6:56:35 GMT
I thonk you are overcomplicating this issue. The same MCC Interpretation states:
"The position of the striker is different. He can be out of his ground and still not be classed as running. The striker’s movement may only be part of his playing at the ball, or it may be
an attempt to run."
If the non-striker is out of his ground, then he is "attempting a run" BUT it does not necessarily imply that the Striker is also attempting a run!
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Post by wisden17 on Aug 10, 2006 18:09:36 GMT
Yes I appreciate the fact that the interpretation says that as well. All I was pointing out is that the logic of how to regard particular individuals (namely runners and a non-strikers) as attempting runs is the same.
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kharadi
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Post by kharadi on Oct 20, 2006 15:29:37 GMT
Re: runner stumped ?
The runner is only there to run for the injured player. If the runner is out of his ground and the wicket has been put down by the wicket keeper the injured striker and his runner are
out "Run out".
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