anywhere else?

[reports from Captain re Umpire]

have just moved to a new league and am told that after every game both captains submit a tick box type report but with space for free text as to the performance of each umpire. This is used for "training purposes" and to grade and then allocate umpires for future matches. The umpires are not allowed access to these reports, does this happen anywhere else?

[jaybee]

Apr 25, 2015 9:46:17 GMT reports from Captain re Umpire said:

... after every game both captains submit a tick box type report but with space for free text as to the performance of each umpire.... The umpires are not allowed access to these reports, does this happen anywhere else?

It's not clear whether you are asking about whether reports are made or whether your concern is about access to your own reports.
The short answer to the first point is that reporting on umpire performance is quite normal.

So too is the question about whether umpires should be allowed to see markings and comments about them.
In the past reports were usually made on paper (or a postcard) and sent to somebody in the league, but, more and more, all this is being collated online, making access to reports much more accessible. Consequently this question arises much more frequently now than it did in the past. The short answer seems to be that under Data Protection legislation in the UK an umpire is entitled to obtain information of this sort in relation to his own performance. This is the case irrespective of whether the report is made on paper or electronically.

Are you a member of ECB ACO and/or your county ACO and are the markings fed back to the latter?

[Spoiler123]

am a member of the ECB ACO and the marks as far as I know stay in the league and are used to rank the umpires which in turn is used to allocate umpires to certain games. Higher the marks the higher quality games you are allocated. I know that the making or reports from captains is usual - its the umpires non access to the reports which in the 21st century seems dated.

[tippex2]

My league keeps details of captains' feedback on umpires private until the end of the season. The thinking is that captains might be reluctant to give honest critical feedback if they know that the umpire will see that before the next time that umpire stands in their game.

[gooders]

It has been my experience that umpires who worry about what a captain's report says are generally umpires who feel they may be less capable than other colleagues. I never worried about captains reports, which in the main generally reflected whether or not they won the game. My main concern was to do the job as well as I could, relying on feedback from the rest of the team, that being my standing colleague and the two scorers. Much more reliable than a losing captain's opinion (especially if he was out lbw believing he wasn't out).
The true reflection of performance these days would be the opinion of an assessor sent to evaluate an umpire's performance.
Basically, stop worrying about a report from somebody who, in general, treats umpires marks as a waste of his time, and concentrate on doing what you have been trained to do.
If you feel it necessary, attend a refresher course when you get the chance, at least you will know the laws of the game, something I have found very few captains know, and an even lower percentage of players.

[bomi jamula]

Apr 26, 2015 16:12:06 GMT gooders said:

It has been my experience that umpires who worry about what a captain's report says are generally umpires who feel they may be less capable than other colleagues. I never worried about captains reports, which in the main generally reflected whether or not they won the game. My main concern was to do the job as well as I could, relying on feedback from the rest of the team, that being my standing colleague and the two scorers. Much more reliable than a losing captain's opinion (especially if he was out lbw believing he wasn't out).
The true reflection of performance these days would be the opinion of an assessor sent to evaluate an umpire's performance.
Basically, stop worrying about a report from somebody who, in general, treats umpires marks as a waste of his time, and concentrate on doing what you have been trained to do.
If you feel it necessary, attend a refresher course when you get the chance, at least you will know the laws of the game, something I have found very few captains know, and an even lower percentage of players.

In India BCCI has done away with Captains report 5 to 6 years back

[gooders]

So, BCCI has done away with Captains' reports. How often does BCCI organise for umpires to be assessed by their own umpires association.
I know that her in the UK, after completing the Level 1a course in the classroom, before receiving accreditation to that level, all candidates must complete a required number of matches, and before their professional discussion, have to be assessed twice by competent assessors.
It doesn't end there. When umpires are promoted to the ECB Premier League panel, they are continually assessed by a panel of Assessors, and are expected to attend refresher courses to help maintain standards.