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Post by missingleg on Jun 23, 2013 16:52:40 GMT
...in today's CT Final the fielder dived to stop the ball reaching the boundary and, in doing so, moved the boundary foam/advertising (can't really call it a rope) in his dive follow-through. The ball trickled back to where the boundary was marked before the dive but was picked up within the boundary 'rope', now a few feet further away.
The umpire gave 4 after consultation with the 3rd umpire, even though the ball never touched the boundary - what would you do?
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Post by gooders on Jun 23, 2013 18:48:14 GMT
If the line is marked then that is still the boundary. However, I don't think there was a line down, so Oxenford was wrong, just as he was with Bell's dismissal.
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Post by missingleg on Jun 23, 2013 18:55:00 GMT
Agreed.
I think he gave Bell out based on where his foot was when the wicket was disturbed, not when the bail had been completely removed from the top of the stumps. Either way, surely far too much doubt to give out.
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Post by missingleg on Jun 23, 2013 19:19:40 GMT
Another funny one - Bopara out hooking a ball over head high...a no-ball in the laws but out according to ICC regs (where they have wides for over hear high)
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Post by duncanfrancis on Jun 24, 2013 12:43:06 GMT
Mr Oxenford had a pretty poor game overall. He was guessing for the bell Decision and when officials in sport start guessing it is time to give up !!
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Post by sillypoint on Jun 30, 2013 2:23:12 GMT
"Bopara out hooking a ball over head high...a no-ball in the laws but out according to ICC"
I have always argued that the Laws are superior in this regard. I cannot understand why the ICC and other cricket bodies (including the one where I do most of my umpiring) do not play the Laws on this; it offers batsmen much better protection.
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Post by whakidywhak on Aug 29, 2013 13:19:42 GMT
Just reading through some old posts as a newcomer!
This one is a boundary 4. Umpires correct. The boundaries are set before the match and agreed by all. A player cannot alter or move the boundary. Therefore, if the rope or marker is disturbed the boundary remains as it was but notional just as it would be if marked with flags.
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Post by missingleg on Aug 30, 2013 16:45:41 GMT
Should it have been a four? If there's no line you're guessing as to where the boundary 'was' though...
There seems to be some disagreement here.
This is the problem of these easy-to-move foam advertising boundaries, give me a fixed rope any day!
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Post by whakidywhak on Aug 31, 2013 7:53:31 GMT
Exactly why in this case the 3rd umpire was consulted. Also, I have never come across a"fixed rope"! In my experience, they are also prone to some movement by diving fielders. In the absence of a 3rd umpire, yes it is a judgement call by the on-field duo.
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Post by Rob on Jun 10, 2014 14:47:17 GMT
I agree with whakidywhak - the boundaries are agreed before the game. They cannot then be changed by a fielder otherwise they'd all be at it!! Moving the boundary rope outwards in the area where they were fielding!!
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