Is it a short run??

[viswajith]

will it be consider as a short run if the batsman grounded the bat on a fielder's shoe (fielder was inside the popping crease to receive the throw) when turning for the next run?it happened during one of the matches I umpired...I didnt call it short...what is your opinion friends???

[Jeff Booton]

If that were considered grounding, contact with any part of the person of a fielder standing behind the Popping Crease would also be considered as grounding. Unfortunate but I'd have to understand "Grounding" as making contact with the ground; in any other circumstance it would have to be considered a short run.

[gooders]

Any batsman "worth his salt" would slide his bat along the ground, ensuring that his bat made good his ground when running. We were always taught that dabbing your bat behind the popping crease was not the best way to do things.

[sillypoint]

In Law 19.3.c "grounded beyond the boundary" specifically includes "contact with … any object in contact with the ground outside the boundary edge". I suggest that this should also apply in this instances to constitute grounding the bat beyond the popping crease.

[igmc]

I don't want to stray too far into the realms of the 'it could never happen', but, if you take the 'grounded beyond the boundary' as an analogous situation, then what would you do with the following?

Fielder is standing astride the popping crease.
Batsman touches the fielder's foot two feet outside the popping crease just before the wicket is broken.

By your definition would he be 'not out'? I think I might have a problem selling that.

[viswajith]

thats a nice example to counter igmc

[gooders]

And what would you consider about avoidable damage to the pitch? What is the fielder doing with one foot six feet away from the stumps on the pitch?