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Post by scorer 123456 on Jul 10, 2011 16:22:01 GMT
if batsmen run on a wide do the byes also go down on the bowler's figures?
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Post by swerveman on Jul 10, 2011 20:08:32 GMT
No, they go down as wides in the bowler's figures.
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oznoz
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Post by oznoz on Sept 9, 2011 22:20:28 GMT
I'm a bit confused about this myself, although I agree 100% with swerveman's response above in that the runs absolutely go against the bowler. However, do they all count as wides? Example: A bowler (let's call him "A.Bowler") delivers a single over, in which the only runs scored were from the first delivery, which was called Wide, evaded the keeper and raced to the boundary. His analysis: 1.0-0-5-0. Five wides go into the extras tally, and let's say that these are the only wides delivered during the innings. When you get to totting up the extras for each bowler, how many Wides do you attribute to Mr A.Bowler? I would always have said all 5 ("A.Bowler: 1.0-0-5-0 (5w,0nb)"), but I had a discussion recently with the good folk at CricHQ, whose CricScore application only ever attributes one wide to a bowler per wide delivery (so "A.Bowler: 1.0-0-5-0 (1w,0nb)"). The runs still tally up against him, but you then end up with the situation where the innings total of wides doesn't match the sum of the individual bowlers' analyses, i.e. in this case 5 != 1. They further pointed out to me that cricinfo use the same system*, and I pretty much consider them to be the closest thing cricket has to an official score repository and statistician. Is there any official ruling on this? Whose? * they even provided an example: www.espncricinfo.com/west-indies-v-pakistan-2011/engine/match/489214.html
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Post by wisden17 on Sept 11, 2011 22:27:14 GMT
The reason for this is that the wd and nb recorded next to a bowler is to help discern how many balls they have bowled. There has been 1 wide bowled, which is recorded as 5 wides, but in terms of how many balls the bowler bowled it is only one extra. In addition as a batsman is not considered to have faced a wide ball you need to know how many wides were bowled in order to have an accurate tally for the ball count. The forumla being: Balls bowled - Wides (number bowled, not amount scored) = Balls faced by batsmen.
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