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Post by Jerryspaniel on Jun 16, 2009 14:25:57 GMT
While umpiring last weekend, the non-striker was backing up a long way and the bowler warned him. The non-striker said that he couldnt be run out anymore. I did hear some comments on Sky along those lines, but I didnt hear all the conversation so I couldnt be sure. The more I think about it, it seems ridiculous to do away with this law as otherwise the non-striker could stand at the other end! I realise that I can give 5 penalty runs to the fielding side for stealing a run under 42:16, though whether backing up by 3 yards is 'stealing a run' I am not sure. I have looked on the ECB and MCC websites and can find nothing on this matter. Can someone enlighten me?
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Post by wisden17 on Jun 16, 2009 14:37:13 GMT
Well first point to make is that no warning (by the bowler or umpire) is necessary before a dismissal (i.e. he can be out the first time he does it).
The law was changed in 2000, slightly. It now means that the bowler can't run out the non-striker after he has entered his delivery stride (that is when his back foot lands in his delivery action). The ball doesn't count in the over (as it hasn't been delivered), and if the bowler fails in the attempt you call and signal Dead Ball.
If the bowler does attempt to run out the non-striker after entering his delivery stride, then even if the batsman is out of his ground then the decision will be not out, and again call and signal dead ball (if you think you need to, I mean not much point if no-one is going to try and run!).
The relevant law is 42.15.
Stealing a run is something very different. It is where both batsmen try to complete a run before the bowler delivers the ball, and the law only comes into effect when the batsmen cross. The point of the law is to clarify the situation that the batsmen can't actually score a run in this way, because the ball actually comes into play as soon as the bowler starts his run-up, so you may think that it was possible to score a run, as the ball is in play!
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Post by jerryspaniel on Jun 16, 2009 15:58:40 GMT
Thanks Wisden17. Understand all that and all is covered in Tom Smith's marvellous book. So you would agree with me that there hasnt been a change recently (last year or two) and that the non-striker can be run out by the bowler prior to the bowler being in his delivery stride?
Thanks for your clarification on stealing a run.
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Post by wisden17 on Jun 16, 2009 17:41:23 GMT
Hi Jerry,
The change in the law has been that to 42.15. Prior to the 2000 code the bowler could attempt the run out prior to bowling the ball, it has now changed to prior to entering the delivery stride.
So there was a change, but 9 years ago (admittedly it doesn't seem that long ago!).
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Post by ntfc2 on Jul 5, 2009 14:36:14 GMT
This is a classic case of former players not understanding the laws of the game. They should be made to do an umpiring course to prevent them sowing confusion.
If the bowler doesn't enter his delivery stride, either by stopping or by breaking the wicket whilst running in then the batsman can be run out.
If the bowler gets to the stumps at his normal pace, and enters his delivery stride then the backing up batsman has every right to believe that the ball will be delivered. An attempt to run the batsman out in this scenario would be unsportsmanlike.
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