filbell
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Post by filbell on Nov 17, 2008 9:22:02 GMT
Mobile phones on the cricket field. Phones ringing, fielders checking texts/talking. Batsman handing phones to me (umpire can you hold this please then it ringing) What to do? Is it over the top to put local rules in and have 5 penalty runs for bringing a mobile onto the field of play? Has anybody else had such problems (apart from thingyie Bird)? and advice please.
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Post by blackbeard on Nov 17, 2008 13:03:44 GMT
In pre match discussions with the captains, advise them that should a phone ring, this will be the same offense as deliberately distracting the striker/or fielder and those penalties for that offense will be administered.
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bobo148
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Post by bobo148 on Nov 21, 2008 15:36:05 GMT
In pre match discussions with the captains, advise them that should a phone ring, this will be the same offense as deliberately distracting the striker/or fielder and those penalties for that offense will be administered. That's a good one, I like it. Must remember that in future.
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Post by umpireindia on Mar 17, 2009 13:23:17 GMT
Not only that the batsmen will be distracted, if the mobile phone is on vibration and is handed over to the umpires, it might vibrate at an inappropriate time causing you to lose concentration.
This happened to me in one game and I felt bad for having obliged to safe-keep the mobile phone. Please never entertain such things at all. Its a great distraction for all.
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Post by jaybee on Mar 18, 2009 14:10:09 GMT
... if the mobile phone is on vibration and is handed over to the umpires, it might vibrate at an inappropriate time causing you to lose concentration. ... A good reason for having no truck with this. If a fielder wants to get rid of his mobile make him leave the field and give it to somebody else, making sure that he doesn't return without your permission (at a suitable moment).
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Post by Number 6 on Apr 15, 2009 10:20:25 GMT
It's never happened to me (yet). I would refuse to handle a players mobile - no ifs or buts.
I have never had cause to do so yet but if it became prevalent then I would tell the skippers that any phone ringing on the field of play would count as deliberate distraction as an earlier poster stated.
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Post by heavybails on May 4, 2009 15:30:19 GMT
I had an instance in a match when the the ball was bowled that hit the batsmen in the pocket area and knocked a mobile out of his pocket and onto the stumps, very luckily for the batsmen it did not dislodge the bails, oh how i would have loved to given him out hit wicket.
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Post by wisden17 on May 4, 2009 16:13:20 GMT
Of course even if it had dislodged a bail it wouldn't have been Out-Hit Wicket.
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Post by trotter1957 on May 4, 2009 21:55:33 GMT
I agree with jaybee - get the phone off the field of play
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Post by missingleg on May 4, 2009 22:57:11 GMT
Wisden, is that because a mobile phone does not count as the striker's bat, person or equipment?
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Post by wisden17 on May 5, 2009 1:40:09 GMT
Yes, precisely. The wicket has to be put down bat, equipment which has become detached from his person, person, clothing or (Law 28(1)(a)(ii)-(iii)).
All of these terms are then defined in Appendix D; so bat is:
* the whole of the bat itself.
* the whole of a glove (or gloves) worn on a hand (or hands) holding the bat.
* the hand (or hands) holding the bat, if the batsman is not wearing a glove on that hand or on those hands.
Equipment include the bat but also any external protective equipment (which is any visible item of apparel worn for protection against external blows; items permitted are a helmet, external leg guards (batting pads), batting gloves and, if visible, forearm guards) being worn.
Person is a the batsman's physical person (flesh and blood) together with any clothing or legitimate external protective equipment that he is wearing except, in the case of a batsman, his bat. A hand, whether gloved or not, that is not holding the bat is also part of the batsman's person, as is a glove being held but not worn.
Clothing is anything that a player is wearing that is not classed as external protective equipment, including such items as spectacles or jewellery, is classed as clothing, even though he may be wearing some items of apparel, which are not visible, for protection.
So in short, a mobile phone in a batsman's pocket wouldn't meet any of those definitions.
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Post by heavybails on May 5, 2009 8:18:29 GMT
thanks for that wisden i would have given the batsmen out, wonder how many others would have done the same and given the batsmen out ? do you not think it would be classed as an item of clothing as he is sort of wearing it on him ?. Could you give an other instance of when a batsmen would not be out hit wicket if something else were to be dislodged of the batsmen ?.
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Post by Srinivasan A R on May 5, 2009 15:47:27 GMT
There are two matters being discussed. I would agree with other suggestions that first the captain be informed during the pre-toss discussion that carrying such devices should be avoided and secondly if anyone brings it to the ground, it should be taken out immediately. The second matter about being given out, I agree wigth Wisden that the batsman cannot be out "hit-wicket".
At times it's just not the mobile phones, some players carry digital watches which make sound at the strike of the hour, some have key bunches in their pockets which makes a distracting sound while advancing forward when the bowler is on his runup. I generaly suggest the players to leave the items outside of the ground immediately.
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