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Post by Scorer1234 on Oct 23, 2016 12:50:09 GMT
Hi all,
As a scorer for 4 years now, I have scored many many junior games alongside with senior games. Last season, in a few events I have had no colleague when about to score a match in a junior game, and about 99% of the time, I haven't even had a visit with someone from the opp. team and I have had to score a full match on my own. That is with a book, a computer-based scoring application and the electronic scoreboard. It is practically essential to have a partner when scoring. Don't get me wrong though, in our league in senior matches you must have a colleague, but this rule isn't enforced much in junior matches? Can I just ask, how would you personally handle the situation of not having a colleague? Am I being to 'lean' about this? Should I be more strict on insisting I have a partner to officate the game with. I can handle scoring on my own, but it is better and more helpful with another scorer.
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Post by tippex2 on Oct 24, 2016 9:22:03 GMT
AS a current umpire and former scorer, I can sympathise.
It's probably unrealistic to expect every junior team to have an attached qualified (or even competent but unqualified) scorer - your club is very lucky to have you.
What I would do before the start of a game where you're going to be on your own is to proactively speak to the opposition manager / coach, and ask for a copy of the team list, in batting order where possible, and make a note of who's likely to bowl. If you can arrange to sit in the vicinity of the team / coaches / parents etc who know the opposition side, they may be able to help you.
I do wonder whether you're being a little over-ambitious in trying to do a book, computer, and scoreboard live on your own. Would it be possible to focus on the book during the game, and catch up on the computer later? Scoring in a book alone has the advantage that, where you don't know a name, you can make a pencil notation along the lines of "ct cover, tall, no cap", which makes it easier to check names at the end of the game. I'd also ask each coach whether, during their batting innings, they could delegate a spare batsman to help out with the scoreboard.
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Post by Acumen on Oct 24, 2016 11:09:18 GMT
I encountered a situation recently where the solo scorer gave a walkie talkie to the opposition captain - the frequent calls made him realise the importance of having a scorer, although I do not know ehether they did any better next match!
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Post by sillypoint on Oct 24, 2016 11:14:17 GMT
On the contrary, you would be within your rights to refuse to let the game proceed with only one scorer. The Laws of Cricket state quite explicitly: "Two scorers SHALL BE APPOINTED to record all runs scored, all wickets taken and, where appropriate, number of overs bowled." (Law 4.1) and everywhere in the Laws scorers are mentioned in the plural. At the very least you should bring this to the attention of whoever is in charge of the match, and perhaps report the matter to the competition authority afterwards. Furthermore, your umpiring colleagues should be on your side and report it as well.
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Post by tippex2 on Oct 24, 2016 12:21:20 GMT
On the contrary, you would be within your rights to refuse to let the game proceed with only one scorer. The Laws of Cricket state quite explicitly: "Two scorers SHALL BE APPOINTED to record all runs scored, all wickets taken and, where appropriate, number of overs bowled." (Law 4.1) and everywhere in the Laws scorers are mentioned in the plural. At the very least you should bring this to the attention of whoever is in charge of the match, and perhaps report the matter to the competition authority afterwards. Furthermore, your umpiring colleagues should be on your side and report it as well. I'm not sure that it's good for the future of the game to have 22 enthusiastic juniors denied a game of cricket by the actions of a scorer getting on his high horse and saying "You're not allowed to play unless I have a colleague". Sillypoint is quite right that the first 42 Laws ask for there to be 2 scorers, 2 umpires, a correctly marked and cut pitch and a range of other requirements. However, in the real world games of cricket can and do take place without all of these requirements being followed to the letter, which is surely in the interests of everyone concerned, as long as there's no risk to anyone's safety.
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Post by sillypoint on Oct 29, 2016 7:22:57 GMT
Re: "I'm not sure that it's good for the future of the game to have 22 enthusiastic juniors denied a game of cricket by the actions of a scorer getting on his high horse and saying "You're not allowed to play unless I have a colleague"." I quite agree. I wasn't advocating actually stopping play proceeding, more letting people know what the Law actually states, and that it is thus an expectation that ought to be taken seriously.
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Post by gooders on Oct 31, 2016 16:14:14 GMT
The laws also refer to "The umpire, together with his colleague" This is fine when there are two umpires. Unfortunately as we all know, there is a desperate shortage of umpires. Nevertheless, the game still proceeds.
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