bobo148
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Post by bobo148 on Jan 23, 2008 17:44:30 GMT
Hi,
Do you know if applications for QM are still being accepted?
Regards,
B
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Post by swerveman on Jan 24, 2008 0:13:09 GMT
I don't know for sure, but I would doubt it very much. What would you be a member of, exactly? I'm already a full member of ECB ACO, and the GL4 exam I'm taking next Monday won't change that one iota. We're already at ECB Level 2, and we need another course and exam to make Level 3.
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Post by johnfgolding on Jan 25, 2008 18:54:23 GMT
First good luck on Monday. GL4 is not as bad as its reputation suggests, but it is a very good examination of you knowledge and how to deal with situations.
I took mine and passed at the end of the season (just before the meger vote). I had the acknowledgement of the pass a few weeks ago (after the Merger vote). With the acknowledgement I was urged to go for full membership both in the letter and by a follow up telephone call.
I too am one of the ECB OA's level 2 and if the exam structure for the ECB ACO remains as per the ECB OA then there was no need to take GL4. HOWEVER, the experience gained during the study and exam was well worth it.
I was told by the ECB OA that to progress to level 3 you needed to be nominated by your County Board.
You also need a workbook and to quote
"The workbooks are currently ‘work in process’. A Working Group, involving Chris Kelly, are currently developing new umpire and scoring courses. The workbook will be an integral part of these new areas and will be produced once the course details have been completed. We would suggest that in the meantime you keep a record of the matches to which you are appointed along with any information you consider relevant."[/i]
Lets see what pans out with the ECB ACO training structure over time.
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Post by johnfgolding on Jan 25, 2008 19:08:47 GMT
I have just seen an interesting post by Chris Kelley on the ACU&S web site forum.
"ACO will be recognizing GL4, GL5 and GL6 qualification up to 30th April 2008. This has just been agreed with ACU&S and all members will be informed of this shortly.
Yes, ACO does have an umpire examination set up and will be piloting the new Level 2 course before the 2008 season. The first group of tutors whose names were put forward by the county boards in December are meting tomorrow (Monday 21 January) for a briefing on this subject. All the information that is shared tomorrow will be available to members shortly.
Further information will be disseminated over the coming months as the interim chairman starts to look at the many decisions that need to be made.
Chris Kelly Umpires and Match Operations Manager, ECB "
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Post by missingleg on Jan 26, 2008 19:02:10 GMT
A question, gentlemen, if I may:
Having recently passed GL6, does that automatically make me an ACO Level 1 umpire, now that I have sent off for membership of the ACO?
I'm hoping to receive a great deal of literature some time soon to put me out of my confusion with regard to my position and aspirations.
I never knew umpiring was this confusing and hard to get in to - without even officiating a match! I'm just looking forward to the summer and (hopefully) actually getting on with it!
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Post by johnfgolding on Jan 26, 2008 21:02:25 GMT
Just send a note to Sam Greaves (Sam.Greaves@ecb.co.uk)at the ECB ACO and your GL6 should get you your Level 1.
You have started at a very confused time. Get yourself on the "circuit", enjoy yourself, gain experience & learn. You will soon get recognised and be encouraged.
Most importantly remember Law 43
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Post by missingleg on Jan 27, 2008 1:09:58 GMT
Than you very much for your help in this time of bewilderment, John. I have just e-mailed him. You've no idea how keen I am to umpire and gain experience!
You're also not the first person to stress the importance of Law 43 to me ;-)
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Post by johnfgolding on Jan 27, 2008 14:40:21 GMT
Its a pleasure.
With the changes in process, patience is required by all.
Concentrate on your game, remember GL6 / Level One etc are there to help you gain knowledge. It is experience gained in the field and in particular man management, hence law 43
You will make new friends, they will be of help to you, you will be to them. You never stop learning.
Go out there and enjoy yourself.
This forum is very good for when you have a query or want an interpretation. We all help each other.
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bobo148
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Post by bobo148 on Jan 28, 2008 11:06:20 GMT
Hi,
Can anyone send me (preferably in electronic form) the required QM forms for referees?
PM me if you can help.
Thanks.
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Post by umpire50 on Jan 28, 2008 12:36:51 GMT
Bobo
I wouldn't think that any new applications for QM are being accepted.
However, to get a definitive answer you should contact either John Lynch, the Assessment Panel secretary or your Regional Examination Officer.
Swerveman has made the point earlier in this thread that those with an examination pass, either GL5 or GL6, will be accepted at Level 2 by ECB ACO. QM status will make no difference to that.
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Post by gooders on Jan 28, 2008 15:55:39 GMT
Bobo,
The required forms in the past were issued when success was achieved in the old Oral exam, so I guess that it would be similar in that they would more recently be issued automatically when a pass at GL4 has been achieved. I don't think that elevation would be allowed to anyone who had not got that standard of examination.
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Post by swerveman on Jan 28, 2008 22:28:14 GMT
I passed my GL4 exam today ;D
My examiners were Lorraine Elgar, ACUS South-East Region Councillor, and David Edwards, South-East Region Examinations Officer. They tell me that there is still just about time to send in referees' forms, and to be recognised as a Qualified Member of the late, great ACU&S.
If you happen to be in the South-East Region, David may be able to help you with the forms. His email address is dels12326@blueyonder.co.uk
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Post by missingleg on Jan 29, 2008 13:25:30 GMT
Congratulations!
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Post by Number 6 on Mar 3, 2008 9:58:11 GMT
I am still very confused over the whole affair. Very upset at the demise of the ACU&S first of all.
Next I am now getting quite anxious about the whole situation. My local leagues are now asking me for confirmation of my ECBACO membership status before they will allocate me any games for the coming season because of insurance issues. I have heard nothing from ACU&S nor ECBACO since sending in my membership request weeks ago and none of my emails to ECB are being answered.
I qualified at GL4 level just after Christmas - does anyone know if this will be transferred to Level 2 automatically?
Does anyone have any updates on the current situation.
Any contact phone numbers or email addresses that I can use?
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Post by missingleg on Mar 3, 2008 13:52:46 GMT
Peter, I'm just as confused as you and perhaps even more anxious, I have my fixtures for my first season of umpiring though so that's relieved my stresses. As for contact information, all I could do was to phone the ECB ACO dept. (0207 432 1240) where they assured me everything was being organised as quickly as possible, with membership cards to be issued "soon". They're e-mail is ecbaco@ecb.co.uk. I believe this is the man to contact for queries on membership qualification level status - chris.kelly@ecb.co.uk Sorry in advance if those details aren't helpful or if you have already tried them, the only other thing I do is to check regularly the ECB ACO website FAQs at www.ecb.co.uk/ecb/ecb-association-of-cricket-officials/I hope things start to materialise soon!
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