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Post by anotouter on Apr 22, 2009 20:43:22 GMT
ECB ACO Don't you just have to love them. I read that the ECBACO in their wisdom are decreeing a closed shop; only union card holders need apply... Do they have enough active members in any one region to cover all Premier League matches (1st and 2nd XIs)?
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Post by blackbeard on Apr 23, 2009 7:55:02 GMT
I have previously stated on this site that, all will not be rosy on the other side? This closed shop is just the tip of the iceberg?
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sclasec
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Post by sclasec on Apr 23, 2009 15:05:12 GMT
Wouldn't it be nice to see something positive from Blackbeard and Co? It's difficult to see what else ECB ACO can do to establish cohesion. Not a closed shop, more a proper decent professional environment for serious umpires who are not interested in petty politics!
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Post by Number 6 on Apr 23, 2009 17:34:48 GMT
You've all lost me!
What is this concerning?
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Post by missingleg on Apr 23, 2009 23:49:47 GMT
I think this is regarding the ECB's decision not to allow non-ACO members to officiate in Premier Leagues.
It is the 'ECB Premier League' after all.
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Post by anotouter on Apr 24, 2009 9:18:19 GMT
Not a closed shop, more a proper decent professional environment for serious umpires who are not interested in petty politics! I am a serious (as exam-qualified as it is/was possible to be, fifteen seasons' practical experience) amateur umpire who is not interested in petty politics and offer my services for no fee, but out of a love of the game. I cannot understand why I should be forced to pay to join an organisation that offers me no perceptible benefit in order so to do.
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Post by jaybee on Apr 24, 2009 10:48:31 GMT
I am a serious ... amateur umpire who is not interested in petty politics and offer my services for no fee, but out of a love of the game. So am I. I can think of 2 reasons: (i) There needs to be some organisation in charge of the officiating fraternity (there are counterparts in the other major team sports such as Rugby and Football) and ECBACO is now the only game in town. (ii) Apart from the fripperies of new-style umpires' clobber, blousons and all, the insurance cover is worthwhile whether because of personal injury or because the dread scenario arises of serious injury to someone resulting in legal action. I agree with sclasecPersonally I have no desire to stand in a Premier League but I still think that it's worthwhile belonging to the ECBACO and, particularly, my County ACUS.
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Post by missingleg on Apr 24, 2009 11:12:34 GMT
anotouter,
You can remain in leagues that aren't ECB - affilated (i.e. up to ECB Premier League) without membership but I don't see why you wouldn't want to be part of an organisation.
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Post by anotouter on Apr 24, 2009 11:43:23 GMT
I can think of 2 reasons: (i) There needs to be some organisation in charge of the officiating fraternity (there are counterparts in the other major team sports such as Rugby and Football) and ECBACO is now the only game in town. (ii) Apart from the fripperies of new-style umpires' clobber, blousons and all, the insurance cover is worthwhile whether because of personal injury or because the dread scenario arises of serious injury to someone resulting in legal action. I simply do not accept that these are reasons. Why does there need to be such an organisation? As for insurance, I already have (probably more than) adequate personal injury insurance. Your 'dread scenario' doesn't worry me; only a fool would sue somebody who is without the backing of an insurance company and whose total net (financial) worth wouldn't even pay their lawyers travel expenses to court.
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Post by Septic on Jul 12, 2009 14:53:29 GMT
Do we really need both a Soccer Referee and a Rugby Referee on ECBACO Board to tell us how to umpire?
Surely a tennis or hockey official would have been more appropriate if we needed anyone else!
Is this what we expected when we killed ACU&S?
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Post by umpire50 on Jul 23, 2009 21:16:02 GMT
I, for one, would not umpire without insurance in this day and age. Although I voted against the take-over of ACU&S, I have now joined ECB ACO purely to obtain insurance cover.
Those who have not joined ECB ACO should think very seriously about finding some insurance cover. I believe that some leagues and local Associations have policies in place that cover their members.
However I still proudly wear my ACU&S insignia on field. I have resolved NOT to wear ECB ACO insignia until such time as I am as proud of that organisation as I was of ACU&S. At the current rate of progress that might take some time!
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Post by anotouter on Sept 17, 2009 11:56:00 GMT
Evidently they are! I umpired seventeen games in an ECB Premier league this season; all that I was available for.
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