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Post by wisden17 on Feb 13, 2009 16:52:19 GMT
Yes, just to add to Acumen's last post. When I give a bowler a warning, I usually preface it with "I know it wasn't deliberate . . ." (obviously we all know if I did think it was he'd be coming off after just that one beamer; but it does stop the usual protest "I didn't mean to do it" etc.)
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Post by johnfgolding on Feb 14, 2009 9:00:23 GMT
I can remember one incident where the fast bowler who was about 16 or 17 (would need to go to my records to confirm) in quite a low division match bowled his first beamer which just missed the batsman’s upper chest. It was obviously accidental so I gave my customary warning. As Wisden & Acumen said there is a lot in how you give the warning – that is man management.
The bowler nodded, the captain shouted to me. “Come of it Ump, he did not mean it”. I could not resist myself and simply retorted “But if he did he would not be about to bowl now”. Everyone including the captain broke out in laughter.
You don’t need to be officious, just consistent, work to the law and you will get respect. It is repect, in my book, that matters.
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Post by missingleg on Feb 15, 2009 1:45:41 GMT
'It is repect, in my book, that matters.'
Maybe I'm just arguing for argument's sake here but I'm told you gain respect by not enforcing the laws at the first oppurtunity you can (running on the protected area, running (slightly) on the pitch, practice on the square before play etc), and that the 'quiet word' is invaluable in gaining respect.
Of course, none of the above are health & safety hazards.
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Post by johnfgolding on Feb 15, 2009 10:19:23 GMT
I would totally agree with you about how to enforce the laws and gaining respect. Everything needs to be taken on its own merits. A bowler that gets a half a foot on the protected area is one thing, a beamer is another.
So in the first instance a word to the bowler that he is in danger of encroachment may be appropiate. However, it could be that he created a rough spot where a fast bowler at the other end pitches, increasing the liklehood of a dangerous bouncer.
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Post by johnfgolding on Feb 15, 2009 17:02:00 GMT
'It is repect, in my book, that matters.' Maybe I'm just arguing for argument's sake here but I'm told you gain respect by not enforcing the laws at the first oppurtunity you can (running on the protected area, running (slightly) on the pitch, practice on the square before play etc), and that the 'quiet word' is invaluable in gaining respect. Of course, none of the above are health & safety hazards. Did you see just after lunch in the rearranged test in Antigua Rudi Koertzen warned Fidel Edwards for just stepping on the protected area the first time.
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Post by missingleg on Feb 15, 2009 22:20:18 GMT
I saw it! I'm not sure if it was an 'official' one though.
Rudi isn't one of my role models though - and that 'slow death' nonsense really winds me up, like Bowden and his play-to-the-cameras boundary signals too.
I hope to take after someone like Simon Taufel.
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Post by johnfgolding on Feb 16, 2009 9:06:52 GMT
Yes it was an official warning.
The replay a few minutes after showed him clearly speaking to the bowler pointing out the damage. You then saw him raise a finger three times, I presume to his Colleague, Chris Gayle (the WI Captain) and the batsman. He then spoke to the bowler at the end of the over, with a smile on his face.
It was the manner he issued the warning was a lesson, firm but not officious.
Of course the TV experts how have not read Tom Smiths wittered on. I would not dare to criticise any of the mannerisms of the first class umpires or their decision making ability, they have all achieved a level some of us would dream of reaching.
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Post by lofters on Feb 16, 2009 14:06:44 GMT
Anyone else notice that the 'protected area' markings on the pitch were absent at the ARG yesterday?
Or did I just lose them amongst the Footy lines.
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Post by missingleg on Feb 16, 2009 14:49:19 GMT
Of course I would never criticise decision-making and man-management skills of professional umpires, but Bowden still winds me up with some of those signals. For a game that's there for the players, you wouldn't think that with him.
I'm sure the markings were there lofters, in some form. This is Test cricket!
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Post by swerveman on Feb 16, 2009 22:41:11 GMT
The markings were certainly there on the bowling crease, but I didn't notice them five feet in front of the popping crease.
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Post by lofters on Feb 17, 2009 14:42:01 GMT
Yes, it was the five foot marking that was missing....... but only on day 1, so someone must've rattled the groundsmans cage after Sundays close.
Swerveman, yep its Test cricket......... but Test cricket on a football pitch, at 48hrs notice, in the West Indies, after all!!
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Post by swerveman on Feb 17, 2009 23:02:56 GMT
The pitch they're using seems to be adjacent to the centre spot. It's quite amazing by our standards, but I suppose it's not so difficult in a hot climate. The Aussies play Aussie Rules Footie on their grounds without a great deal of trouble.
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