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Post by Septic on Aug 20, 2008 15:08:15 GMT
<<This thread was originally started as a result of ACUS Refunds and subsequently split by the moderator - a summary of the earlier posts can be found elsewhere but are probably irrelevant now>>
I would rather have had another few issues of Hows That? and a lot more clarity about qualifications.
It seems we shall be taking GL6s this autumn but not calling them GL6. Indeed we ought to have had a new set of questions.
What about GL4 & GL5 - we still need to train umpires passed the rock bottom minimum standard?
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Post by blackbeard on Aug 20, 2008 17:08:47 GMT
GL6 will indeed be expected by ECB to be taught. They can try and call it what they like, it is still ACUS GL6 a starter level, which in the scheme of things mean nothing as according to Nick Cousins there will be no exam at the end of the GL6 course? ECB do not believe in Examinations? GL6 on its own is a dangerous move as umpires might think that as it is a ECB qualification (level one) that they are now qualified, which could not be further from the truth.
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Post by swerveman on Aug 21, 2008 11:33:10 GMT
We had a meeting with Nick Cousins in Sussex, and agreed with him that we would use the current mock exam to grant Level 1 qualification. There will be no Level 2 training in our area for a while, so we are able to use the GL5 mock exam to judge competence, and award a Certificate accordingly, which will enable the successful candidate to be fast-tracked when Level 2 becomes available.
Far from ideal, but at least we have something to use for now.
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Post by blackbeard on Aug 21, 2008 11:42:15 GMT
below is a edited copy of e mail correspondence which differs from your view?
Therefore, more than most, you will be aware of the very different requirements that this qualification has in terms of accreditation of trainers and assessors.
Since I came on board in early June one of my main focuses has been to accelerate this process so as to bring Level 2 on stream, taught locally as soon as possible.
In my reply to , I attached a copy of my Report for the next newsletter which explains in detail the timescale which is now in place - I have attached a copy for you in case it was not forwarded.
I understand your frustration about not having an alternative Level 2 course to teach in the interim but would ask that you bear with us. You will note my comments about evolution as opposed to revolution, but I am looking to the future not the past.
The specific answer to your question is no – it is felt that to persist in “recognising” GL5 and GL4 as equivalent to Level 2 would be to undermine a new process that will be in place by the end of the close season - but…….of course you should continue to develop umpires at all levels – and if you think that the most appropriate way to do this with this specific group of umpires who have completed Level 1 (GL6), is to use the ACU & S GL5 and GL4 material, then please go ahead -I am not in the business of preventing training taking place!
However where we disagree is in the necessity for an examination at the end of it which will be “recognised” by ECB as Level 2 – why is this so vitally important or considered to be such an essential prerequisite of umpire training and development?
As I understand it, (please correct me if I am wrong) “passing” GL5 or GL4 even under the old ACU &S system was not a prerequisite to being appointed at any particular level - so the fact that there is not a qualifying examination should not prevent any umpire from progressing in Essex or elsewhere.
We are engaging in training Level 2 in this close season, (March, 2009): if you have candidates that you would like to put forward then please pass their names to the County Board ACO who will then nominate them to the Regional Committee.
Similarly I hope you will want to become an accredited Level 2 trainer and to that end I hope you will nominate yourself to the pilot course that is taking place in October.
Please feel free to ring me on any of the numbers below – or e mail back – I am happy to come to Essex for a private meeting or meet you at an appropriate committee meeting if you choose to invite me.
With best wishes,
Nick
Nick Cousins
ECB Association of Cricket Officials
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Post by Acumen on Aug 21, 2008 19:56:49 GMT
In many areas the courses and exams were the other way round.
We ran introductory courses in the spring so that new umpires were ready for their first season and then run the more advanced courses in the autumn while their experiences were still fresh in their memory. We also found that the novice trainee would forget some of the material between Christmas and Easter!
There are several leagues etc that did insist on GL4 qualifications before making appointments.
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Post by swerveman on Aug 21, 2008 20:41:40 GMT
Sorry, Blackbeard, I don't have the benefit? of an email to back up what I have said. I only have my own memory of a face-to-face meeting between Nick Cousins and most of the instructors in Sussex on 29th July last.
I don't know where you practice the art; your profile doesn't tell me this. Perhaps your area will have Level 2 training available. I do hope so.
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Post by blackbeard on Aug 22, 2008 10:19:51 GMT
It still appears that ECB have learned nothing since 2006, they are still contradicting themselves. They expect us to get behind the program, (what program?) why can't they just come out and say they cannot cope, and let ex ACUS tutors run their own courses as usual and when they are fully ready phase their system in.
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Post by orangeumpire on Aug 22, 2008 13:52:45 GMT
Productive again Colin
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Post by missingleg on Jan 8, 2009 16:27:47 GMT
My regions' (Derbyshire) course starts next week. It'll be ECB Level 1. In previous years, the tutors would simply run through the 42 Laws. Now, there will be modules about management as well as implememntation of the Laws.
Although technically I'm a Level 2 umpire (I passed GL5 a week before the ECB finally took over) I still feel that this Level 1 course can only benefit our umpiring standards. I am very keen to see how this course works.
My only issue is, I'm not sure what else to do to progress. I hope to take an old GL4 exam purely to iron out any major errors with my mentor. Otherwise, I suppose the only thing to do is to gain experience and wait for the formats of Levels 2, 3 and 4 to materialise.
I wish everyone well for this year's courses throughout the country.
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